hello
is there an coverage for reading the OTP area and then writing this to a new chip?
(apaceatic65v71)
thanks
apaceatic65v71 coverage
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
Hello romanycars,
The part name APACEATIC65V71 is a custom automotove part name. I have had a quick look online but I cannot find out what the real Atmal part name for this PLD/micrcontroller is. Without this information I cannot say any more.
Do you have any further information about this device, real part name or a datasheet for it?
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
The part name APACEATIC65V71 is a custom automotove part name. I have had a quick look online but I cannot find out what the real Atmal part name for this PLD/micrcontroller is. Without this information I cannot say any more.
Do you have any further information about this device, real part name or a datasheet for it?
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
Neil Parker
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
so far i am finding it very difficult to find anything even relating too it. although when i do it seems to kick over too a Atmel microcontroller. which has the same pin layout which is a little miss leading , it is possible its the same thing but has been renamed to through anyone off from finding out what it is.Hello romanycars,
The part name APACEATIC65V71 is a custom automotove part name. I have had a quick look online but I cannot find out what the real Atmal part name for this PLD/micrcontroller is. Without this information I cannot say any more.
Do you have any further information about this device, real part name or a datasheet for it?
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
It’s possible, but without more information I cannot say any more about it.
You could try selecting the device you believe it to be in the software and attempting a READ. Of course, there is a possibility that the microcontroller has been secured proventing readout of the contents.
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
You could try selecting the device you believe it to be in the software and attempting a READ. Of course, there is a possibility that the microcontroller has been secured proventing readout of the contents.
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
Neil Parker
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
sorry for the extremely late reply... i was curious to know if the dataman software has the ability to scan unknown ic's such as this one, as see if there is a close match in the dataman software database. that being said I have found a solution to read it with somthing else but it was for future reference.
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
DEVICE / SELECT EPROM/FLASH BY ID (Ctrl+F5)
Use this command to automatically select an EPROM or FLASH as the active device by reading its device ID. The programmer can identify certain devices by reading the manufacturer and device ID embedded in the chip. This feature is only available for EPROMs and FLASH memory that support it. If the device does not support a chip ID or manufacturer ID, a message will indicate that it is either unknown or not supported.
If multiple devices with the same chip ID and manufacturer ID are detected, a list will be displayed. You can select the desired device by choosing its number or manufacturer name from the list and pressing <ENTER> (or clicking the OK button). To cancel the selection without changing the currently selected device, press <ESC> or click the Cancel button.
WARNING: The control program currently supports only EPROMs and FLASH memory with 28 or 32 pins in a standard pinout. Some programmers can automatically determine the number of pins, but for others, you must enter this number manually.
The programmer applies a high voltage to the appropriate pins on the socket. This is necessary for reading the device ID. Do not insert a device that is not an EPROM or FLASH, as it may be damaged when the high voltage is applied.
We do not recommend using this function for:
- 2764 and 27128 EPROMs, as most do not have an ID.
- Flash memory with a non-standard pinout (e.g. Firmware Hub Flash).
- Flash memory that does not accept VID voltage at the A9 pin.
- Low-voltage EPROMs and Flash memory.
I hope this helps.
Use this command to automatically select an EPROM or FLASH as the active device by reading its device ID. The programmer can identify certain devices by reading the manufacturer and device ID embedded in the chip. This feature is only available for EPROMs and FLASH memory that support it. If the device does not support a chip ID or manufacturer ID, a message will indicate that it is either unknown or not supported.
If multiple devices with the same chip ID and manufacturer ID are detected, a list will be displayed. You can select the desired device by choosing its number or manufacturer name from the list and pressing <ENTER> (or clicking the OK button). To cancel the selection without changing the currently selected device, press <ESC> or click the Cancel button.
WARNING: The control program currently supports only EPROMs and FLASH memory with 28 or 32 pins in a standard pinout. Some programmers can automatically determine the number of pins, but for others, you must enter this number manually.
The programmer applies a high voltage to the appropriate pins on the socket. This is necessary for reading the device ID. Do not insert a device that is not an EPROM or FLASH, as it may be damaged when the high voltage is applied.
We do not recommend using this function for:
- 2764 and 27128 EPROMs, as most do not have an ID.
- Flash memory with a non-standard pinout (e.g. Firmware Hub Flash).
- Flash memory that does not accept VID voltage at the A9 pin.
- Low-voltage EPROMs and Flash memory.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
Neil Parker
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
hi Neil
i have been doing some digging around and it would appear that i may have found it. it would appear the chip is based on a ATA6264 , I have been trying to find a specific programmer for it as it seems it needs specific programming voltages and also can only program the OTP area vin k-line according to the datasheet , i don't think many off the shelf programmers can do that.
edit the datasheet is a miss leading it says LIN but quote's the wrong ISO number
i have been doing some digging around and it would appear that i may have found it. it would appear the chip is based on a ATA6264 , I have been trying to find a specific programmer for it as it seems it needs specific programming voltages and also can only program the OTP area vin k-line according to the datasheet , i don't think many off the shelf programmers can do that.
edit the datasheet is a miss leading it says LIN but quote's the wrong ISO number
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
Hello,
The ATA6264 is a special device (Airbag Power Supply IC, last DS we have is from 2009) and most probably we can implement programming of the one 8-bit OTP register inside, but nothing else. Based on the unclear description is it 10-15 man-hours of work. A reference programmer doesn't exist, therefore we have no possibility to verify the result.
A new programming adapter is also necessary to develop and manufacture.
Given these conditions we cannot continue with this support request. Sorry.
The ATA6264 is a special device (Airbag Power Supply IC, last DS we have is from 2009) and most probably we can implement programming of the one 8-bit OTP register inside, but nothing else. Based on the unclear description is it 10-15 man-hours of work. A reference programmer doesn't exist, therefore we have no possibility to verify the result.
A new programming adapter is also necessary to develop and manufacture.
Given these conditions we cannot continue with this support request. Sorry.
Best regards,
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
Neil Parker
Dataman Programmers
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Re: apaceatic65v71 coverage
helloHello,
The ATA6264 is a special device (Airbag Power Supply IC, last DS we have is from 2009) and most probably we can implement programming of the one 8-bit OTP register inside, but nothing else. Based on the unclear description is it 10-15 man-hours of work. A reference programmer doesn't exist, therefore we have no possibility to verify the result.
A new programming adapter is also necessary to develop and manufacture.
Given these conditions we cannot continue with this support request. Sorry.
while waited to see if its possible I have decided to try and make ago at it my self with an Arduino I am awaiting for some parts to arrive. and I have made some code which should be able to read and write too the OTP by using a k-line transceiver. the out lay of parts was a whopping £28 , I'll tinker with it to to make use of it. i have a test board with an already programmed one and i will attempt to read and write to a new one.
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